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AN INTERVIEW
WITH MICHAEL IAN BLACK
By
BRIAN HURLEY
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For such a nearly famous guy, Michael Ian Black is rather
skeptical of celebrity. With starring roles in The
State, Stella, Wet Hot American Summer,
VH1's I Love the… series, and a new showReality
Bites Back on Comedy Centralhe has created
a new brand of comedy that alternately mocks our popular
culture and confounds anyone who places him alongside
it. His latest venture, a collection of essays called
My Custom Van, is a stab at another kind of fame:
the pomp of the published author. But he still uses
that cherubic smile to disguise an acid tongue.
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Now
that you're a serious writer, are you going to write for serious
publications, like the Shouts & Murmurs page in The New
Yorker?
I think it's very, very unlikely that the Shouts & Murmurs
page would have me. Anybody who writes an essay entitled "Why
I Used a Day-Glo Magic Marker to Color My Dick Yellow" is
not going to be invited to participate in The New Yorker.
Do
they have something against dick essays?
Well, there's already an essay in The New Yorker called
"Why I Used a Day-Glo Magic Marker to Color My Dick Yellow."
Woody Allen wrote it. I just copied it, word for word. In
retrospect I probably should have given him credit for it.
So…how's
your rash?
I'm on the mend.
Is
it weird that I asked?
No, because I definitely wrote about it, and pretty much anybody
can read it. But a lot of what I write isn't true. That just
happened to be true.
Are
you more of an exhibitionist now that you have a blog?
I've never really been an exhibitionist. But I've always been
interested in combining true and not true things, or blending
the two and creating a mythology. To me that's always been
very interesting as a performer.
Your
book sort of creates its own mythology.
There are a few thematic ideas in there. Including, most notably,
the fudge cabinet.
Are
you an enormous fan of fudge?
No! See, that's one of the things that's not true. I don't
like fudge at all. If there's fudge on the counter I'll pass
it right on by.
My
mom has a recipe that will blow your mind all over your face.
It's so much better than whatever crap you've been eating.
You have to send it to me.
You've
worked on films, TV, live shows, and now a book. Is there
any form of media you're not interested in conquering?
I'm not that interested in video installation, specifically.
I won't be doing a video installation at the Guggenheim anytime
soon. I might do one for the Whitney. But they're a much more,
I think, cutting edge museum. I would do a video installation
for the Whitney, but I absolutely wash my hands of the Guggenheim.
What
if the Metropolitan Opera asked you to write a libretto?
I would have to consider that very seriously. Because I do
have some excellent ideas for operas.
Sounds
like you're open to new projects. Maybe you should advertise
on Craigslist.
"Will create for pennies."
More
than pennies, right? Your book has a price tag of $23.95.
But on a per-page basis that's very inexpensive. It's basically
50 cents an essay. If you went to a bar and ordered buffalo
wings, you'd be paying 50 cents for buffalo wings. So you're
done with that in two minutes, and it's gone forever. But
these essays, they stay with you.
They're
all of a similar length. Why is that?
When I first started writing these essays, I was writing for
McSweeney's, and they have, like, a 500 word guideline, and
I got used to that form. Then I started writing a bit longer
[essays]. Comedically, I'm pretty much saying everything I
need to say in about 1,500 words. After that, I feel like
the idea is kind of exhausted. But I'd like to start writing
some longer things. I mean, there are writers out there who
write more than 1,500 words. Most of those writers are hacksTolstoy,
for instance. But I feel like the next time out I'll probably
write a few more words.
Are
you still writing for McSweeney's, or are they totally lame?
I've just been busy writing my own things. Actually, the one
in the book called "An Application to Harvard," which is written
by somebody with no chance of getting in, was written for
McSweeney's. But they didn't want to publish it because they
didn't want to have something that made fun of the conflict
in Darfur. [Dave Eggers wrote a book, What is the What,
about the lost boys of Sudan.] I didn't realize when I wrote
that. Dave Eggers wrote me a nice email saying, "This is very
funny, but I can't print this." And I understand. But that's
one of my favorite things in the book. I think it's really
funny.
It's
funny because it's about Darfur.
It's funny because it's so fake. It's so clearly a ploy. He
has no interest in Darfur, and I think the transparency of
that is very funny. And at the end he saysin case the
Darfur stuff didn't get them"And global warming is a
terrible thing."
Are
there recurring characters in your essays?
I'm always inclined to root for the stupid guy, and to me
that narrator is the stupid guy. Other characters in the book
are aggressively masculine, which I also find really funny.
Like the custom van guy, the taco party guy, the guy who wants
to party it up in Vegas. But there's also the very sensitive
guy, who I sort of equate with a 13-year-old girl. I have
a pretty limited palette of colors. But the colors I do have,
I like a lot.
Do
you laugh at these essays when you read them?
Once in a while, if something surprises me, I'll laugh.
In
the past couple of months, you've started feuds with David
Sedaris and Tucker Max. Is there anyone else you might seek
to destroy in the future?
I can't just rip into people randomly.
What
about Madonna?
No way. I wouldn't want to get too close to her vagina dentata.
Do
you want to talk shit about Simon Pegg and how he got a screenwriting
credit on your movie [Run Fat Boy Run] just for changing
the location to London?
Well, Simon Pegg definitely contributed a fair amount to that
screenplay. But he wouldn't know me from Adam. He lives in
a different countryhe's very famous over thereand
whenever he sees me, it takes him a solid half hour to recognize
me.
Would
your comedy be different if you weren't so dang attractive?
Or, alternately, if this is a low self-esteem day for you,
would your comedy be different if you weren't so dang ugly?
I don't think I'm particularly ugly or particularly attractive.
I'm in the middle. Black comedians tend to be better looking
than white comedians. That's sort of expected in their community,
for some reason. But in my community, I'm expected to look
fat and be greasy and smell terrible. I don't want to have
to start going to the gym so I can look like Jamie Foxx. I
don't need that kind of pressure.
What
is the essence of Michael Ian Black?
Joy.
Are
you spreading the joy?
All I'm trying to do is make the world a slightly better place.
Not even a slightly better placeI try to make the world
a considerably better place. And I think I'm succeeding every
day, in every way.
Have
you ever eaten
a baby?
No comment.
Since
you're giving an interview to the Hipster Book Club: are you
a hipster?
I don't think I'm a hipster at all. You know, I live in the
suburbs. I'm sort of anti-hipster. Which, in its own way,
is incredibly hipster.
(August,
2008)
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